Evolution Of A Pit Bull Attack – “It’s All How You Raise Them”

I’m not going to spend a lot of time on this blog and I’m not trying to say “I told you so.” Well, maybe I am a little.

This was just sent to me by an anonymous source. It shows how quickly and most importantly how unpredictable pit bulls can be. But first, a few screenshots from the 2011 Texas study, Mortality, mauling, and maimings by vicious dogs.

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The American Pit Bull Terrier is, like all the ‘bully’ breeds, one of this group of descendants of the British ‘bull and terrier’ type fighting bulldogs. Once imported into the United States, it was bred up to be bigger again, and again used in baiting animals and in dogfighting. The American Kennel Club (founded 1884) was unwilling to register these fighting dogs, so in 1898 the United Kennel Club was founded specifically to register working pit-fighting dogs and to promote dogfighting. In order to be registered, a dog had to first win three pit fights7,8,9. The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) became a ‘breed’. As dogfighting declined in popularity in the 1930s and 1940s, Colby (the most famous and prolific breeder of these dogs) began to search for a new market and began promoting the APBT as family pets10,11. This despite the fact that his breeding lines included child killers12.

Click here to read the full American Pit Bull Terrier breed bio

Admining a few Facebook pages myself, I run into this almost on a daily basis. “It’s not the owner, it’s how they are raised” are some of the most 9 deadly words I can imagine. If it is “all how they’re raised” then that must mean ALL other owners of NON pit bulls must be the best dog owners on the planet.


 

Phase one: Taunt the actual victims of pit bull attacks by implying that THEY must have raised them wrong. Put the word “vicious” in parenthesis to show all the “Foamers” and “haters” how ignorant they are.

 

Tyler Trover vicious pit bull mocking part 2 our vicious pit bull

Phase two: Post some pics on Facebook and again reassure people it’s “all how you raise them.” Get a whole bunch of likes and new friends. Have your friends talk about how unfair it is that BSL is coming to their town as well. Talk about how acknowledging negative traits in breeds is “Discrimination.” Tell people how Chihuahua’s bite more.

Taylor McDowell Trover vicious pit bull mocking #1Miles is loving, it's all how you raise themPitiot comments

Phase three: Learn the hard way. Have your child mauled within an inch of their life. Receive 200 stitches and get airlifted to St. Louis Children’s hospital where your child will await surgery in an effort to save her salivary glands.

Lyndsey Stone aftermath part 3

The end.


2014-03-14-22.17.461-300x300I looked at my son and he turned over and looked at me for a split second and then dropped his head to the ground. I ran to him and picked him up. I put my hands around his neck instantly because that’s where I seen our pit bull biting him. I felt the hot blood squirting out on to my hands. I was screaming for someone to call 911. I couldn’t let my son die in the back yard so I picked him up and ran inside, laid him on the counter and called 911. His was blue. Like a blueberry. There was blood coming out of his mouth and his tongue was between his lips. He was gone. I could feel and see his lifeless body.

We thought he was going to be a great dog. He acted like one. He was a good example of a good pit. Until he just decided to attack. He slept in our bed and everything. We never left the kids alone with him. They were never mean to him. We had 5 other dogs including another female pit and they never fought.

It’s NOT the way they are raised. Our dog was well loved and raised. He obeyed all commands and never showed any aggression. These myths almost cost my sons life. How many more people have to get hurt because of a lie?”

Jennifer Arp

 

bexar-485531_174313889395141_70745326_nMy boyfriend Greg had had a pitbull named Bexar for 6 and a half years. He’d raised him from a pup and Bexar was a very well behaved dog and listened to everything Greg would tell him. Greg and I got together over 2 years ago, moved in with each other and Bexar came too. I instantly fell in love with Bexar. He was my “sweet boy”. He would give you kisses for hours, even smiled at us every time we walked in the door.

The backdoor was open and suddenly we heard people screaming from outside. Bexar, with zero warning, had lunged at Gavin, and his jaws were clamped down on Gavin’s face, right in front of everyone. Let me point out that there were 8 people within arms reach of Gavin when Bexar attacked. This is a critical point, because I have heard from many people about this, who say that they would never leave their children “alone” with “any” dog. Gavin was far from being alone when this attack happened. Even 4 grown men were unable to pry Bexar’s jaws off of Gavin’s head. Greg ran out and was finally able to get Bexar to release, saving Gavin’s life.”

Maggie Bain

 

2014-kara-hatrich-fatal-dog-attackAs I rounded the corner I could see the street was blocked off , full of firetrucks, police, and families standing outside–i still wondered what was going on, I was flagged and told to pull over , I then looked up and saw that it was my house they were all at, my yard was taped in crime scene ribbon, full of police officers, fire personnel, lots of noise and commotion, i was met by police officers, my husband covered in blood, and my mother, all of whom were screaming, and crying , and telling me it was bad, so very bad, i asked for my kids, Kaylee was at the the neighbors, it was my Kara, my Kara had been attacked by our family pit bulls, I was told to go to the neighbors, wasn’t allowed to go anywhere near my house, or my yard, told to wait that they were ” working ” on her. I never got to see her to hold her hand, to let her know i was there and that i loved her.. I screamed , i cried, i prayed, i was dying inside …..

The dogs she also loved and cherished……yes any dog can and will bite—- but any dog is not capable of this devastation—— please do not let your children anywhere near this breed of dog,,,something has gone horribly and inexplicably wrong with them—- it is not worth losing them, please i beg, i couldn’t stand if one more parent had to live the hell that we are living now.

My brother had raised many pit bulls and one particularly captured our hearts…He was the sweetest well mannered gentle dog I had ever seen…I was always told the aggressive ones were because they were trained to fight and it was all in how they were raised….and if u got them from puppies that was the best way to raise any dog…Both of the dogs who attacked were brought home as puppies and picked out by Kara…These dogs never displayed any people aggression. ..Always sat dutifully by her side, watched her have tea parties, sat by her side when she was sick, thought they were lap dogs and liked to snuggle…..no warnings, no snapping, no growling…….just snapped!”

Roxanne Hartrich

 

john-triton-harvard-killed-by-pit-bull-300x206Suddenly an 80-100 lb, 8-month old, pit bull entered the yard and attacked him, unprovoked. The dog continued to bite, eat and drag little John all the way across the yard, over 20″ from the spot he first attacked. Bradley, John’s older brother, was horrified as he was riding his bike home from a friends house at that moment and saw what he thought was a dummy with red hair being dragged by a dog. He quickly realized it was his little brother and ran toward them, kicking at the dog, it raises up and growled then continued to drag john,it wouldn’t stop. Little John was still crying for help as Bradley ran inside to get their Daddy. He said he kicked the door in screaming, the kitchen stove fan was running so he had to kick the bedroom door in. He jumped from bed,Their Daddy ran out yelled and yelled which caused the dog to step back and prepare to charge him. As the dog stepped back, their Daddy was able to shoot the at the dog 16 rounds hitting him three times. One directly in the forehead grazing him cause he moved, one in the ear and one in the leg that finally caused him to drop long enough to grab John and put him in the truck. By that time he couldn’t speak but was still breathing and responding with his one eye he had left.

Children are blessings from God. Dogs are animals, I understand peoples love for animals and a lot of people choose or may not be able to have children so have these dogs and treat them as their own kids. They will always be animals, not children. For those who choose the dangerous breeds please stop and think, is it worth taking the chance on it turning and killing our children and family members?”

Johnna Harvard

 

beau-rutledge-2013-fatal-pit-bull-attack-photosOur son was brutally killed by our pet pit bull of 8 years…On April 24, 2013 we lost both our beautiful son Beau and our family dog, affectionately known as Kissy Face. Our dog had been part of our family for 8 years and lived up to her name, for she was eager to overload everyone with kisses. Oh, she was such a very loving and family oriented dog. Kissy Face had been around since her birth on November 22, 2005.

Then with no warning, matters changed dramatically and our world was irrevocably altered. Shortly after Beau’s 2nd birthday, I made a quick trip to the restroom. Just a few minutes later I returned to find my son lying in a pool of his own blood. It was the most horrific day of my life and a day that would signal the end of innocence. Our dog sat next to my son’s body looking confused as if she didn’t understand why Beau wasn’t getting up. The screams from my voice were so loud and so terrifying that our neighbors (two doors over) rushed over and joined in with my horrific screams! Rewinding back to the year 2005, I was told by some random person that pit bulls were aggressive and were bred to fight other dogs to the death. Then, I was also told by another random person at our dog’s veterinarian the very opposite. It was explained to me that if you raise pit bulls with love and care they are just as gentle, loving, and domesticated as any other household dog breed. Therefore, we truly believed that with love and the proper up bringing that the nurture factor would override the nature of this breed dog.”

Angela Rutledge

 

BettyTodd“I went to see my mother. I desperately wanted to hold her soft, gentle hands again. I wanted to hug her one last time. She had huge bite marks on her right ankle, right leg, all over her hands and arms, as if she was used as a bone. Her hands were horrible. I learned later that she fought so hard, when they pried her hands open to remove the dog’s hair, the dog’s skin was attached. Her right shoulder was dislocated in a backward fashion, half her right face was missing, as well as part of her right neck, and most of her right ear. My mother had bite marks all over her face, neck, and scalp. Her vocal box was ripped, that’s why my niece only heard one yell. Her C1 & C2 were fractured; part of her spinal cord was ripped from her lifeless body. She fought and fought. She suffered from a horrific, sustained, vicious and violent attack at the jaws of a completely unpredictable breed of dog. My mother’s autopsy report shows her wounds to be consistent with defending her grandchild. The report states that my mother was defending her grandchild. My mother is a hero. She saved my nephew’s life.

The entire money trail of the pit bull protection movement is appalling. I will not stop digging until the truth is known. I will not stop demanding change from these so-called “professionals”. I will not stop demanding accountability for the advice they give out that gets dozens of people killed every year. My mother was a kind, gentle soul who simply did not deserve such a violent death. Something good has to come from her gruesome, unnecessary death.”

Ruth Halleran

 

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62 thoughts on “Evolution Of A Pit Bull Attack – “It’s All How You Raise Them”

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  2. That Chihuahua thing. They’re comparing the bite of a five-pound PET to the brutal and sustained mauling of a dog that was bred for nothing else. And for anyone who goes along with the Lab/golden retriever bandwagon. If they were mauling and killing people to a state of national panic it would be impossible to hide, because they’ve been among America’s most popular dogs for years (Labs have been #1 for decades).

    I checked American fatality reports for 2014. According to DogsBite (I know, I know, it’s written by a lunatic, I’m stupid to believe it, etc) this is the chart so far:

    Pit bull: IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII III
    Rottweiler: II
    Bullmastiff: II
    Cane Corso: II
    Catahoula leopard dog: I
    Shepherd (mix): I

    There’s a likeness here that suggests ownership isn’t everything. Except for the last two, all the dogs listed are Molossers bred for some combination of fighting, guarding, and large game hunting. Mastiff-type Molossers are known for having a more aggressive guarding style, unlike breeds such as the Great Pyrenees, which is a defensive-style livestock guardian. In other words, the first four on the chart were bred to have hostilities toward strangers and certain animals.

    Pit bulls are not the most popular breed prone to aggression (German shepherd, anyone?). Yet they consistently top the charts for deaths and serious attacks. There are factors such as poor ownership and pit bull PR, which has been discussed in previous articles. But getting down to the root of it all, pit bulls were made for fighting, and fighting only. As such, they are a risky breed by nature. What makes them more so is that they were bred to fight unpredictably and not stop. This is, in my opinion, ultimately what makes them the most dangerous dog in America.

    Dogs are a man-made creature, and each breed was genetically refined to perform certain tasks. We don’t dispute that Shelties were bred for herding. When the beagle at the end of the block blazes off with its nose to the ground, we accept beagles were bred for tracking and run after it before it sniffs itself into harm’s way. But a pit bull mauling someone? Nah, man, it’s all in how you raise them.

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  3. I read on another site that you are getting harassed by pit bull people in Aurora Colorado. I also read about a group that is fighting victim groups in Aurora called ColoRADogs. I’m sure they say there are lots of needy pit bulls in Colorado and they are working hard to save their lives and help them, don’t they? The pit bull rescues in Colorado all say they only love those dogs and have their best interests at heart? NOT. ColoRAdogs is even screwing over other pit bull rescues and shelter dogs in Colorado. They are shipping in pit bull puppies from other states like California to sell in Colorado, and take homes away from all those needy Colorado pit bulls those rescues always say they are doing (while they make fun of victims and harass people). When I asked someone in California about it, they told me these puppies come from pit bull breeders in California and get shipped in to pretend they are rescues dogs but they are then used to sell and attract attention like puppies in the window of a pet store.There is no help or rescue at all. I don’t know if it will fit here so I will put this in another comment after this one. They want the ban overturned because they are selling out of state pit bull puppies like a broker and this is like retail, that is what I was told.

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  4. I am sure they will try to hide this because they are screwing Colorado pit bulls and the rescues out of homes and they don’t want them knowing. With all the abandoned pit bulls in Colorado shelters and the rescues trying to find homes for them, what kind of good are they doing shipping in pit bull puppies to sell from California? Pit bull puppy selling is not rescue. It’s being a dog broker. for breeders in another state. Even though they try to convince Colorado rescue groups to follow them, they aren’t even doing Colorado rescue work. Harassing victims and trying to silence them means selling more puppies. If they cared, why would they bring in competition of puppies to take the homes that adult Colorado rescue pit bulls need? These people don’t just hurt the victims they also even hurt their own kind. Cute puppy selling and screwing the other Colorado rescues. Maybe Aurora doesn’t know that there are people who want to put up retail pit bull selling for out of state pit bull breeders and put up these selling companies in Aurora while they call themselves nonprofits? That is who is behind all this pushing in Aurora but it is covered up with deception.

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  5. Delyse Gannaway works for CHAKO, Dawn Capp. She is an instructor for CHAKO. There is a web site called craves desires that has a lot on Dawn Capp.

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  6. There’s propaganda on both sides. Part of the responsibility for the death of your son is on your shoulders. Not everyone leaves their infant son with a babysitter who has dogs – let alone pit bulls. Most people educate themselves about dogs, especially when the safety of their infant is involved. Most people know the statistics about pit bulls. Sure you can lay part of the blame on pit bull propaganda, but not all of it. At some point people have to take accountability for their poor judgement. I’m not for or against BSL. It will always be over-inclusive and under-inclusive. There are too many dangerous dogs out there and too many dangerous people are allowed to have dogs. Better laws need to be made. Not by pit bull lovers or victims of pit bulls, but by professionals who will design reasonable laws to keep everyone safer.

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      • Bill simply represents what this article ahs been trying to say :

        There is a CULT of Shitbull breeders and owners who will say ANYTHING and make ANY excuse as to why these vicious land sharks should not be in the homes of every man, woman and child in America.

        And I stress that these people’s devotion to these genetic abominations is within the parameters of Cult.

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    • Jesus, … you are nothing short of disgusting.
      What kind of person needs to say this to the involved parents??
      “”Part of the responsibility for the death of your son is on your shoulders. Not everyone leaves their infant son with a babysitter who has dogs – let alone pit bulls.””””

      A few appropriate terms;
      pettifogging prude
      insufferable narcissist
      self loathing
      nit-picker
      malignant momus

      Sad little man.

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    • People DO when they’re mislead into believing that the dogs were BRED to be ‘good with children’. Much of the damage done by these dogs is squarely in the lap of pit advocacy and the LIES they have told for 30 years; from ‘all dogs are the same’ (a statement SO stupid only a nutter could believe it), it’s how you raise them (when it’s really how you BREED them), and the ‘nanny dog’ mother of all lies, a lie SO huge even pit advocacy has pronounced it as false while apparently NOT getting that memo out to the hordes of young and gullible who keep repeating it.

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  7. Pit bulls were originally bred specifically *NOT* to be human aggressive!!! So anytime you read or hear about one of these dogs mauling or killing a person, that dog was most likely a product of irresponsible breeding or the animal was *taught* to be human aggressive.

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    • WRONG! The American Pit Bull Terrier is, like all the ‘bully’ breeds, one of this group of descendants of the British ‘bull and terrier’ type fighting bulldogs. Once imported into the United States, it was bred up to be bigger again, and again used in baiting animals and in dogfighting. The American Kennel Club (founded 1884) was unwilling to register these fighting dogs, so in 1898 the United Kennel Club was founded specifically to register working pit-fighting dogs and to promote dogfighting. In order to be registered, a dog had to first win three pit fights7,8,9. The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) became a ‘breed’. As dogfighting declined in popularity in the 1930s and 1940s, Colby (the most famous and prolific breeder of these dogs) began to search for a new market and began promoting the APBT as family pets10,11. This despite the fact that his breeding lines included child killers12.

      The American Staffordshire Terrier is in fact the same dog as an American Pit Bull Terrier, but registered by a different kennel club. At the turn of the 20th century, the pit bull breeders wanted the respectability of AKC recognition, but the AKC was reluctant to register fighting dogs. The AKC finally recognized the American Pit Bull Terrier in 1936 after decades of lobbying by pit bull breeders. John P. Colby’s champion fighter, American Pit Bull Terrier ‘Primo’, formed the basis for the breed standard of the ‘new‘ AKC breed – but the AKC wasn’t willing to have the word ‘pit bull’ in the ‘ new’ breed’s name. The ‘new’ pit bull breed was dubbed ‘the Staffordshire Terrier’ in order to hide its relation to the pit bull and its origins and history in the fighting pit. The breed’s name was changed again to American Staffordshire Terrier in 1972, to distinguish the larger American version from the smaller English version (which kept the name ‘Staffordshire Bull Terrier’)1,2. In 1972, the breed register was also re-opened for a time to allow people to register their UKC registered pit bull as an American Staffordshire Terrier if they regretted not having done so earlier.

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    • Collies weren’t bred to herd people but they do it anyway, even if they’re trained and regularly exercised.

      I’m gonna step in here and take the bait. Let’s say pit bulls were originally bred not to be human-aggressive. What would make that so? Their purpose. Pit bulls were made for one thing and one thing only: fighting. Dogmen wouldn’t want to take the risk that their pit would attack a person, especially since bloodsport was made illegal BEFORE pit bulls were bred. By this logic, pits would be bred not to show aggression toward humans, because pits were made for the sole purpose of ripping apart its own kind (and perhaps ripping apart other animals as well, for training purposes). Furthermore, pit bulls were indeed bred to attack without provocation and not show any warning signs beforehand. Putting all this together, it’s not exactly a surprise that pits would be known for mauling people, even if they really were not meant to be human-aggressive. Explosive and ultimately pointless aggression can strike those it was not meant to.

      We’re also looking at many years of literal marketing and promotion of pit bulls as safe, misunderstood family pets that aren’t any different from other dogs. The most passionate and hardworking people in this regime know how much their propaganda lies. This goes back to when bloodsport was officially made a felony all across the country a few decades ago. Dogmen needed more cover to avoid arrest, so they kickstarted the “family pet” bandwagon to mislead the public while they drove dogfighting further underground.

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      • although I love my 2 Staffordshire terriers, and would never under normal circumstances part with them. I am sick of hearing the bully breed lobby, promote them as the breed of choice for all situations. they are not. they CAN be wonderful pets in the right house hold, they shouldn’t be in homes with children, or taken in public around small prey sized dogs. owners should have to carry insurance and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they are negliegent. the pit bull lobby has lost its fucking mind (if some ever had it). other large potentially dangerous breed lobbies discourage inexperienced owners, and are pro spay/neuter all for the good of their chosen breed.
        Only the pit bull fanatics, who make millions of $’s a year off the controversy are benifiting from the current crisis, they think nothing of the millions of dogs whose lives they help destroy. and more importantly nothing of the innocent victems who are killed or mauled every year. ownership must be restricted to a few responsible owners. and spay/neuter must be made mandatory for all but a elect few breeders. I love my pets but the lives of children/and the elderly (seemingly preferred victems) must allways come before the choice of a dog breed.

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    • pit bulls were specifically bred, ie artificially selected for ONE trait and that is to kick ass of their opponent in a 16 x 16 box. that’s ALL. they were not selected to be nanny dogs or to be gentle with people. they were not selected to attack silently or without warning. dogmen wanted a fighter that got down to business and wouldn’t quit. any other traits that pit bulls possess whether perceived as positive or negative were the unintentional consequences of ARTIFICIAL SELECTION.

      there are numerous websites dedicated to the discussion of BLOODLINES by dog fighters and HONEST pit bull owners/advocates. bloodlines. think about that doofus. that is nature, not nurture. pit bulls are BRED and conditioned to fight. they are not taught.

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      • agreed as the grandson of a former dogman. my grandfather cared nothing about any traits except the ability to kill another dog and never turn from a fight. any other traits were incidental. manbiters were COMMON as were cow biters chicken killers etc. the tempemant, looks and size of the modern apbt came about only because their ancesters were the best fighters.

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    • So were pit bulls bred to be AIRPLANE aggressive Greg? http://americasdog.blogspot.com/2012/03/vintages-top-pit-bull-aviation-moments.html How about aggressive toward talking statues? http://americasdog.blogspot.com/2013/03/idiot-dog-vs-cement-pig.html Aggression isn’t that specific in nature. Even if it WAS dog aggressive dogs would STILL be a danger to people because most of the time a PERSON is there trying to get the shit bull off their screaming beagle. http://dogbitelaw.com/dangerous-vicious-dogs/a-propensity-to-attack-other-dogs-means-a-dog-is-dangerous-to-people.html

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      • Aggression sure can be specific in dogs. A dog can be human aggressive and not dog aggressive. A dog can be dog aggressive and not human aggressive. A dog can also be human aggressive *and* dog aggressive.

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      • What do you expect, this is the magnum opus of DOG FIGHTERS. With the thinking that dog fighters would create a dog that only desired to attack other dogs, you would think it would be specific enough, that pit bulls would only attack other pit bulls, (this, after they have breed to attack bulls and bears for hundreds of years, with dogs used as instruments of war as their not too remote ancestors…hmmm human aggression.) but that’s not how it works. It seems that pit bulls can’t tell if it’s another pit bull either. They don’t seem to notice the difference between beagles or Shetland Ponies or trees or concrete statues or tires or grandma tending the flowers. They are wired to attack PERIOD, and their aim misfires on other objects (preferable) and beings.

        Not even scientists at this point can make herbicides and insecticides that hit specific targets. We end up killing off the desirable plants and insects in the effort to eradicate the undesirables. When there is a herbicide that kills only oxalis and not the watsonias, let me know.

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    • Approximately one-third of Mr. Phillips’ cases started out as a dog attacking another dog, and then turned into a dog attacking a person. For example:
      •A 14-year-old girl was walking her puppy in a small Texas town. Across the street, a pit bull in the fenced front yard spied the puppy. The pit jumped the fence and raced toward the girl and her pet. Seeing the pit coming, the girl picked up her puppy and held it over her head. The pit bull arrived and began biting the girl on her arms, legs and buttocks, which left her with ugly, permanent scars. The physical injuries and medical expenses resulted in a settlement of $100,000.00.
      •An eye surgeon took his dog to a dog park. While there, his dog and another began to fight. The other dog was a mastiff; the doctor’s dog was a labrador. The mastiff grabbed the labrador by the throat and started shaking it. Neither the mastiff’s owner nor the doctor could make the mastiff let go. The doctor had a can of Mace in his pocket. He sprayed Mace into the eyes of the mastiff. It let go of the labrador’s throat and began biting the doctor on his hand. As a result of the injuries to his hand, the doctor finds it difficult to engage in his occupation as an eye surgeon who has to do microsurgery — a job that requires steady hands. The settlement was $50,000.00.

      On the basis of cases which he handled or was involved in, Mr. Phillips is of the opinion that one of the things that makes any dog dangerous to people is its propensity to attack other dogs. The reason is that the owner of the other dog is often nearby, either trying to pull the dog away, holding the dog, or breaking up the fight. It is natural for a human being to protect his or her pet.
      http://dogbitelaw.com/dangerous-vicious-dogs/a-propensity-to-attack-other-dogs-means-a-dog-is-dangerous-to-people.html

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    • Correct, i also keep seeing stories, like the one above where an 80 to 100 lb pit bull mauls someone. The American Pit Bull Terrier is NOT an 80 to 100 lb dog. These are mixes with who knows what and back yard breeders that dont know what they are doing have developed monsters that are ticking time bombs. The APBT is a medium sized dog 35 to 55 lbs and the head should be proportionate to the rest of the dog and not some stocky anvil headed scary looking creature. It is a shame that cross breeding, in breeding, and abuse has damaged a very docile to human dog. Many true APBT’s have had animal aggression (fighting instinct) bred out of them, and can be zero dog aggressive. People here dont know what they are talking about. We have always owned APBT,s going back to my great great grandfather. I have owned 6 and we have never had a problem as they were used as farm and family dogs and were completely normal.

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      • although I agree with your size estimates ron everything else is false. going back to the Colby family who helped invent the family friendly pit bull myth apbt have shown human aggression Colby’s own dog killed his grandson. as someone who grew up around working (fighting) pit bulls let me say the attack instinct is ALLWAYS there ALLWAYS its genetics. beagles might prefer to track rabbits but if there’s another scent on the ground they’ll go after it. especially a non trained or young dog. the same with a fighting dog pitdogs who have fought a lot and are well trained will rarely bite a human, not because they are geneticly non diposed to biting people but because they are constantly handled while in the pit. and grow used to it. a untrained beagle will track anything. because it still has the genetic desire to trail game and hasn’t been trained to go after specific prey. the same way a apbt or mix pulled from a shelter or backyard breeder will attack ANYTHING because the genetic desire to fight and kill is ALLWAYS there and hasn’t been focused on fighting in a pit the desire to fight is genetic the ability to discern between human and animal prey is a learned behavior

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      • I agree Its the recent breeders breeding g only for bigger and using steroids. I’ve been raising my bloodline of staffys for close to 30 years and it isn’t until the last so many that I see all the bully breeds getting bigger and bigger. I have to say they arent without their problems. I admit they are dog aggressive and sooner or later most males even ones raised since birth will turn on each other. Even all these years and breaking up the odd dog fight that arises I have never had one turn around and bite me instead. I don’t recommend having a group of them together without careful supervision . And all the attack without warning is bs. I’ve never cropped any of mine and I can tell you they show warning before attacking it’s all in their body language especially the tail. I won’t leave my kids alone with them as an extra safety but I still have never been biten or attacked and am living with 8 grown staffys and one pit.

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    • Not true and shows you know nothing about the APBT breed . Many famous pit champions have been man biters and bred from freely .
      Dog fighters do not care how friendly their dog is , if it can win in the pit it is friendly enough .

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    • GregK9,

      please explain how someone trains a pit bull to
      1) single out a child from across a parking lot,
      2) while child poses no risk, proximity or otherwise
      3) with a focus so intent the dog weaves around other easier targets
      4) body slams the child to the ground
      5) refusing to redirect
      6) and refuses to stop the attack until physically overpowered by 3 adult males.

      It would require a LOT of training to teach a dog to do this, so please tell us how you think it is done.

      Poor Breeding?? There are literally hundreds of millions of domestic pet dogs in the world and among those,… tens of millions of them are ‘irresponsibly or poorly bred’, spanning all breeds ever developed.

      Perhaps you could explain why ONLY the “poorly bred” pit fighting bull dog breeds do this? NO OTHER BREED OF DOMESTIC DOG will do this, REGARDLESS of breeding, abuse, good training or bad training. ONLY THIS SPECIFIC BREED TYPE.

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  8. And five minutes before their pibbles killed or mauled someone all these people would rip you up one side and down the other if you didn’t agree it was all how you raise them and what great dogs they are. Why don’t any of them learn before it’s too late? THIS is why we need BSL.

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  9. “gregk9 says:

    October 21, 2014 at 4:28 am
    Pit bulls were originally bred specifically *NOT* to be human aggressive!!!”

    Why would Greg say this? Because a dog fighter (the ones who developed the breeds over generations) told him so?

    No, dog fighters have been very honest over the years about their breeding habits. Their dogs attack even them. Their dogs have killed their relatives. They breed their dogs to kill anything and evertything, and they never intended their dogs to be in any homes or among people or any other animals other than other pit bulls in the pit killing.

    Some got greedy and started selling them to idiots though. Same aggressive dogs, now in the hands of complete idiots who put them in tutus.

    When pit bull advocacy started, then all that happened was that every complete idiot who couldn’t think for themselves jumped on the bandwagon to be an idiot follower, and the numbers of breeders went through the roof, only creating more homeless and dead pit bulls but also lots of violence along the way..

    Dog fighters sure did breed human aggressive dogs and lots of them. Their descendants are in every shelter, every craigslist listing, every pit bull rescue, every pit bull breeder’s kennel.

    The only thing that was specifically bred for in pit bulls was aggression preriod. Aggression to all. Aggression to the death.

    So where would a fool like greg come up with this lie? From the pit bull breeders and dealers and pit bull grifters who want to deny the heritage of their breeds and want to hide the fact that pit bulls were always bred to be aggressive and still are.

    They know there is always a dumb stooge around like greg to just repeat what he hears.

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  10. When people are convinced that pits will make good pets if they are raised as such, they accomplish this by making the dog a member of their family. In other words, the dog is raised as a child in the home. To the dog, humans become members of their pack. When you have a dog that is bred to attack and kill other animals (primarily dogs), and it does not differentiate between dogs and humans, it follows that humans will be attacked. With other breeds, not much harm comes with this blurring of the lines between species. If my lab feels that he’s a human, or that humans are his family, it will not be deadly. In fact, when my kids were small, we had a lot of fun playing hide and seed with our lab. I would tell him to find the kids and he would find and “retreive” them. He was never taught to retrieve. It was innate to him because his ancestors had been bred to retreive.

    I will never understand how a thinking person came to believe that a dog bred to attack and kill would make a good pet.

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  11. greg, at least don’t take your lies from truly racist females and good ole boys breeding pit bulls and making up propaganda.

    Of course, that may well be what you are.

    Organized dog fighting breeding has been going on in this country since the early 1800s, first by English and Irish dog fighters importing their lines in and breeding and running public dog fighting pits in many of the growing cities There was grwoing outrage and exposure during the 1800s by people like Henry Bergh, so pit bull dog fighting breeding was then picked up later in the 1800s by WHITE SOUTHERN MALES (with some of their female family members) who moved it into the backwoods and rural areas in hiding after the cities started to shut down their pits.

    Later that sequed and branched off additionally into white suburban females in the AKC breeding Staffordshire Terriers, pit bulls, and trying to claim they werem’t pit bulls. These women were and still are connected to the white, southern males (and their counterparts in other parts of the country) who are dog fighters. They work together and they lobby together. They also make up lies together.

    These white southern males (with some female family members) have been line breeding pit bulls for many generations, and they kept extensive records on their breeding of Fighting Dogs, pit bulls.

    Intentionally breeding aggressive dogs that attack and kill evertthing. Human.Animal.Everything. It’s why the breeds have always been bred.

    The UKC was originally formed in the early 1900s as a registry for fighting dogs, and they awarded championships based on dog fights. Aggressive pit bulls killing each other.Though they claim now not to support doig fighting in any way, there still are convicted and known dog fighters that appear at their events. UKC is now owned by someone who used to run AKC.

    As only one example of white southern organized dog fighting breeding, the KKK in Georgia has been breeding and fighting pit bulls for a long time to make money for their activities.

    Dog fighting and pit bulls didn’t hit the inner city areas until the 1980s.

    At that time, the injuries and attacks were increasing and attracting attention, and the White Dog Fighting Breeders made up a racist lie.

    They tried to blame African American people and other minorites in urban areas for breeding these aggressive dogs, when all that had really happened was that some inner city minorities had simply obtained fighting breeds, pit bulls, from the white pit bull breeders and were doing the same things that the white fighting dog breeders had been doing for generations.

    But the wealthy White pit bull breeders (in conjunction with the general dog breeding industry looking to oppose any regulation) from the 1980s on to today tried to point the finger at minorities and blame urban minorities, to try to hide what those White breeders had been doing for generations and still are- breeding fighting dogs that were aggressive in every way and bred to kill. Those breeds are Pit bulls.

    Those same wealthy white fighting dog breeders and their counterparts in the AKC and dog bredding industry , etc are the ones running pit bull advocacy and spreading the lies like these for the idiots and followers to just repeat- like greg, helping those breeders make money and expand their territory.

    Greg is just providing back-up and aid for the fighting dog breeders, but the question is, does he know it and he is one, or he is so amazingly stupid that he doesn’t even realize it? Stupid people are always the last people to admit they are wrong.

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  12. Anyone who would repeat a proposterous lie like this from pit bull breeders and dog fighters, designed to help them keep killing people and killing other animals, and to keep even killing the frigging pit bulls, is a total and complete dumb stooge in every way

    OR is just another pit bull breeder or dealer which is even worse.

    Which is it greg?

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  13. The death of the 7 year old child in Iron Ridge WI is disturbing. Lots of secrecy. These are Malinois and Rottweiler breeders training protection and guard dogs.

    How many years of problems from operations claiming those services.

    I hope that people at some point look a little more closely into the seedy underworld of guard, protection, and law enforcement breeders and trainers, which is also very much involved in opposing BSL laws and protecting dangerous dogs.

    There is a world of people breeding these kinds of dogs for guard dog activity, which is very outdated at this point, and also state and federal police services. Taxpayers pay many thousands of dollars and often for dogs who have many genetic problems and need to be retired early, or are out of control aggressive.

    I don’t know if these people were doing that. They are breeding malinois and rottweilers. But there is a really disturbing pointer on their FB at involvement in one of the biggest service dog frauds around- the court house and trauma service dogs. These are psychopaths that parade their dogs around in courthouses and force them on children and people in waiting areas and claim they are offering services. It is just fraud and harassment, and dangerous too. Wherever there is a dollar to be made, fraud abounds. If these people try to force themselves into your local court system, raise hell before someone gets hurt or killed, children have to suffer this harassment. There is no special training for this at all, and if any tax money is going to this it should be shurt down immediately because it’s just fraud.

    “First Obedience Client has arrived. Athena is a female German Shepherd who will be getting a ton of work to complete training to be a Courthouse and Trauma Services Dog.”

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  14. Courthouse and Trauma Services Dogs are a fraud? Guard, protection and law enforcement dogs are ‘outdated’? Thanks for posting this gem. Proves the point that you have no idea what you’re talking about and can’t be taken seriously!

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  15. Guard dogs are outdated. This is a holdover from the junkyard guard dog era. Technology and other advances like alarms and surveillance have made guard dogs obsolete and dangerous. They always were dangerous.

    Courthouse and trauma services is a fraud that was just made up. It is also harassment and dangerous. Service dog fraud.

    The police and law enforcement dog industry has had problems for many years. Overcharging taxpayers, poorly bred dogs that have genetic problems and have to be retired early, aggression problems that make them dangerous to the public and not trustworthy, graft, bribes, police officers breeding these expensive police dogs to make money on the side when they are supposed to simply be keeping them at their homes (yes it happened), and too many favors for connected people who get the contracts,

    Mamny of these breeders and trainers have also been active in opposing BSL, protecting dangerous dogs, and seeking to weaken dangerous dog laws. Since they have connections to local governments, animal control, and police departments, their influence has carried too much weight with these issues and endangered the public.

    There needs to be investigation into how this world operates, who does it and what their backgrounds are, and what taxpayers are paying for. Also how contracts are awarded and how chrges are determined. . It’s been a lucrative but secretive industry that hides a lot of negative things for too long, and the public deserves to know because they pay for it and are affected by it..

    I think we are getting a better idea of what background gregk9 comes from.

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  16. I just read about where K9Protection Services owner Jessie Smith came from- Vohne Liche Kennel in Indiana and the dogs they killed.

    http://www.kvia.com/news/owner-of-kennel-transporting-dogs-that-died-en-route-to-el-paso-says-his-heart-is-broken/21568414

    They didn’t skip a beat because the public is still giving them lots of money every year through police, federal, and military contracts.

    Isn’t there any accountability at all?

    They also have media connections, probably through their government connections, because they are getting gigs on things like David Letterman show and National Geographic to do free advertising.

    Does anyone know if they are involved in the service dog racket?

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  17. Tactical K9 Daily

    April 1, 2013 · .

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    Kenny is building an executive protection program, offering dogs to movie stars and politicians. He has brought in a new trainer to VLK, Wade, but the rest of the guys aren’t sure he fits in. When Danny hands over a list of 28 dogs that the trainers think are untrainable, Kenny is seeing red; it costs more than a thousand dollars to ship a dog back to Europe. Kenny decides to test these dogs himself, and when he realizes that it’s the trainers who aren’t working hard enough, heads will roll.
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    Diane Ford Never met a dog I couldn’t train. Dog owners – not so easy!

    7 · April 1, 2013 at 10:09am
    Jessie Smith Our Executive and Family Protection Section is growing leaps and bounds. Placing dogs all over American. As the new Director of Executive and Family Protection just message me if your interested.

    3 · April 1, 2013 at 8:39pm

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  18. This was a tough way to find out what a mistake the Executive and Family Protection business is. I hope the public keeps pushing and finds out about this world because these dogs are showing up in their communities and in public.

    Where are the other dogs trained this way and sold to households across America? Or the ones put into service dog fraud?

    The politicians buying these dogs. Are some of them the ones opposing dangerous dog laws and regulation? Are some of them supporting non-punishment of people whose dangerous dogs maul and kill? Are they supporting the breeders who do this?

    This is just another aspect of the dog profiteering world, all looking out for their agenda, and who have political and media connections to do their lobbying and advertising through.. This one is the more right wing, military side of the industry, but the various sides of the industry from AKC to puppy mill to pit bull to fake rescue dealer brokers to hunting dog to this protection, police, and military sector ALL LOBBY TOGETHER.

    The average man, woman, and child have been under their feet, so far.

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  19. Couldn’t keep a handle on his dog, but makes a joke like this. Letting an aggressive dog run around loose. Maybe Hummer didn’t attack anyone. If a trainer can’t keep control of his aggressive dog then what more can you expect?

    “Wheels on the ground now time to find me dog. Hopefully Hummer didn’t eat anybody……haha “

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  20. There was a dog fighting bust at a pit bull breeder’s place there in Sevier and Ledy and the liars moved in for the kill to convince the locals to take these dogs and let them kill their kids. The Mountain Press has no ethics.

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  21. Apparently Ledy forgot to tell the Mountain Press that even after years and hundreds of thousands of dollars and training, two of the Vick pit bulls broke containment and killed another dog at her Best Friends sanctuary after they were declared rehabilitated.

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  22. How things change when a lawyer steps in. Detroit Michigan Police and the DA were very happy to throw pit bull victim Steve Contantine’s life to the whims of pit bull breeders, dog fighters, and the advocacy groups who help them out (including animal control officer and dog attack art exhibit despoiler Rachel Jensen who is connected to one of these Detroit groups) but now a lawyer has stepped in and the truth is coming out and suddenly the government employees are actually looking like they might uphold the law and prosecute the criminal (the pit bull breeder) instead of protect him.

    Anyone concerned about this attack also needs to know that the ADOA (American Dog Owner Association) is based in Detroit Michigan. They are a hardcore pit bull breeder lobbying group, and they were involved with Russ Mead of Best Friends Animal Society and Stubby Dog Project (and Ledy VanKavage of BF/AFF) and CHAKO of California with other pit bull breeders in getting their hands on Vick’s pit bulls and the money through the Virginia court. (CHAKO is involved with Coloradogs in Colorado trying to bring the pit bull breeders back into Aurora, and has been shipping in pit bull puppies from California for Coloradogs to market and sell in Colorado.) ADOA has also been involved with Nathan Winograd who is a lobbyist for all these breeders, and ADOA sponsored and participated in some of Winograd’s farcical No Kill conferences, which were just breeder rallies.

    I hope that everyone understands that victims and potential victims need lawyers, or lobbying interests will try to influence inaction.

    Thank you Sam and Mark Bernstein.

    “The Sam Bernstein Law Firm is representing Constantine in a civil lawsuit. They are suing Felton and his mother, who owns his residence.

    Attorney Mark Bernstein said the firm is suing Felton’s mother because landlords “who allow irresponsible, reckless tenants to engage in these types of behaviors” should assume some responsibility for what happens in the homes they own.
    “We’re going to ask for a meaningful amount of damages in order to send a message that these people need to be held accountable,” Bernstein said. – Detroit Free Press, October 27, 2014″

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  23. If this is interesting in any way, make sure it is saved or they will just take it off and try to hide their tracks.

    There’s a recipe to the whole violent breed industry and the lobbying. Here’s an example of who Nancy Tranzow, Coloradog, Stubby Dog Project, Karen Delise, Animal Farm Foundation, Best Friends Animals Society, CHAKO, Rachel Jensen and the other animal control puppets,, the pit rescues, and all the other groups and manifestations of pit bull and other aggressive breed Advocacy truly represent.

    Breeders.

    Greedy breeders intentionally breding voilent breeds that kill other pets and kill people. Who want to be unregulated and unrestricted and unresponsible. Who want to escape getting business licenses, paying taxes, being held to consumer laws, etc.

    Pit bull advocacy forms, spreads, and disseminates the lies and myths. Their contacts in the media help spread them. The government contacts and corrupted court representatives do the dirty work of refusing to pass regulation, weakening it, hiring corrupted animal control to protect the breeders and violent dogs, and insulate these businesses from actual responsibility.

    We get the whole recipe reflected with these people as one example.

    First there is the pit bull Advocacy lies and tricks. The racism fraud. The nanny dog myth. Blaming the mutts. The pretence at being interested in animal welfare. The typicals coverups and ploys to hide the reality of intentionally breeding, selling, and profiting from violent dogs.The connections to the farm industry and agriculture and those politicians and lobbyists to help them escape regulation and spread their lies and profit more and breed more.

    First there is ingredient 1, from a comment on the pit bull propaganda revealed Facebook page. Here’s another dog expert, pit bull Advocate, right? The Advocacy lies.

    “Ty Byrd I own several pitbulls and have owned many over the years…I have also had and still raise many crosses that have apbt in them. I also have three young children and I also have MANY friends that have pitbulls. Are they strong tenacious dogs? Yes they are. I can tell you that these dogs have an inherit desire to be around the kids and my females sleep beneath my kids bed most every night and this is something that they do and have done not due to any training that conditioned them to. As a whole every dog that I have ever had the esteemed pleasure of raising has had an exhibited an extreme amount of tolerance when being harassed and annoyed by the kids. Even the dogs that I have had that displayed a high degree of prey drive and animal aggression never on any occasion did those animals ever display anything but fondness towards my children. Of course if any of my animals including but not limited to my apbt’s were to indicate ANY aggression towards children that animal would be culled and would not be provided the opportunity to pass their genes into further generations. To single out a particular breed is asinine and a tad bit ignorant. Most attacks you will read about are mainly mutts that had no training or socialization. Aggressive and dominant behavior is found in most sport breeds and without proper environment is can and often will end up a bad situation. I think that if yellow labs or dalmatians found favor in the eyes of people of a certain persuasion then all the racists would find reason to manufacture myths to help eliminate this breed. So is it just pitbulls or do you believe that ALL bully breeds are a menace to society. Should we ban the American bulldog and the boxer as well. How about the english bulldog or the bull terrier?”

    It doesn’t take too long to figure out exactly what is going on here. This is a BREEDER selling these violent breeds for a lot of money.

    Another commenter writes this about this breeder “She’s an arrogant, ignorant breeder. She sells the dogs for profit, but says its not about the money. She believes her mix of fighting breeds are superior. She speaks of high prey drive and gameness.smh”

    Yes, she is selling them even on Facebook and in the Houston newspaper classifieds and telling people to just contact and buy themselves a dog, though she writes “NOT FOR FIRST TIME DOG OWNERS!!! ” Nice try at a disclaimer because she knows they are aggressive, but in reality she’s just handing them to anyone with the money. Because money is all this is about.

    Why do people think there are so many dog fatalities and deaths in Texas for example? Because the fake “dog experts” (actually breeder/trainer profiteers) like this there influencing the government and law enforcement are actually these kinds of people making mountains of money breeding violent breeds with no regulation and shilling them to anyone with the money in hand, just what pit bull advocacy works for for them.

    So what are these dogs?

    “Ty Byrd
    10 weeks old 50% Cane Corso 25% Great Dane 12.5% APBT and 12.5%Neo. (Neapolitan Mastiff”

    Breeding American Bandogge Mastiffs in Houston Texas

    (Just as one recent example, remember Craig Sytsma and the dogs that killed him in Michigan? Or Joan Kappen, and the dog bought by Brande and Emily Coy in Hot Springs Arkanas? These are the kinds of breeders where people are buying these dogs)

    Here is the business behind the pit bull advocacy propaganda that got bleated out by this breeder on the Behind the Propaganda page. After the Animal Farm Foundation and Karen Delise propaganda about nanny dogs and racism, here’s what their work is all about and what it is protecting. This kind of breeding business.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/South-Texas-Mastiff/597195510356705

    Yoyu have the pretend animal welfare interest to trick the rescue fools, “I see a friend, I see a soul” with a photo of an American Indian and a horse (when their breeds attack and kill other pets in large numbers and they already admit they have high prey drive and animal aggression.) You have the Farm and Agriculture lobby connection. (South Texas Mastiff, Farming and Agriculture ) The claims at being dog fanciers and responsible purebred dog breeders like the AKC breeders do (with quotes from their friend’s page at National Purebred Dog Day photo

    There’s a photo of one of these dogs being brought “On the way to petsmart” to go sell some dogs and promote themselves and potentially get pets and people killed at the store (because they can always blame the victim right?) They tell buyers these are high prey drive dogs that will kill other animals but they are bringing them to Petsmart, where Petsmart lets them market and sell.

    Do you think they have a business license? Do you think they are reporting the income from those facebook and claffiied sales? Do you think they have inspections? Who’s the vet? Where are the health records as these dogs get shipped all over the country?

    They already acknowledged they have been breeding dogs that will kill other animals.

    Litter after litter, sold to any jerk who wants to get off on having a violent dog, then a lot of those dogs gets abandoned for obvious reasons.

    But that’s ok because Nathan Winograd and Jane Berkey and the No Kill breeder fraud will get the taxpayer (through the animal control shelters) and the individual rescue angels and to spend their money taking these dogs in and reselling them and cleaning up after the breeders.

    This breeder business is a case in point example of exactly what Jane Berkey, Karen Delise, National Canine Research Council, Stubby Dog Project, Coloradogs, and all the others are working for and helping.

    It’s why they oppose bans, oppose regulation, oppose breeder laws, oppose spay neuter laws, oppose BSL, oppose animal control enforcement, lie about the fatalities and maulings, create propaganda and teach it to others, lie about the guilty breeds, and blame the victim

    Pit bull Advocacy is an industry machine to support marketing, sales, promotion, and lobbying support to people like this who breed and sell dogs like this.

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    • Ironic quote, “Think that if yellow labs or dalmatians found favor in the eyes of PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN PERSUASION then all the RACISTS would find reason to manufacture myths to help eliminate this breed.”

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  24. This should get saved because I guess she will try to hide it. She changed her Facebook name from Lisa Camuso to Lisa Caruso which is not her real name, it is Camuso. This had Camuso on it before.

    I saw the Facebook page The Pit Bull Propaganda Machine Revealed there was a comment about a pit bull person named Lisa Camuso who was harassing victims and advocates.

    I was curious and I found something that people should know about. They had a link to information about her on a website called Craven desires, but Lisa Camuso has been doing this also

    She posts things on the Pit Bulls and Parolees board where criminals and felons who push pit bulls hang out, The star of the show has a husband who is a white supremacist and is in prison for good now but. He and his felon friends ran that place with Torres woman and they were doing things like having drug labs, committing burglaries at the neighbors, and threatening people. These are serious criminals and serious criminals follow them and their facebook page.

    Lisa Camuso was going to their page and posting personal details about these women to stir the criminals up and get them to harass and stalk people who have spoken out about pit bulls. I took out the names of the 2 women but she gave the full names and as many personal details as she could so they could track these women down. She was trying to get these women hurt. Lisa Camuso is a breeder and I suppose these women didn’t do what breeders should, go along with program.

    Things like this have to be reported before someone gets hurt. How many people has she done this to?

    This is the original before she changed her Facebook name.

    Lisa Camuso‎ Pit Bulls and Parolees
    December 14, 2013 · Franklin, MA ·
    Facebook warning:
    A Woman named A****** B*******…HATES Pitbulls and belongs to organizations geared towards banning/ euthanizing them…her Facebook profile pic is of a Belgian Tervuren and she does agility…she is also obese…she is crazy about Fleetwood Mac….and horse racing….she is BAD NEWS and I want all Pit fans to know who she is….. her close friend J****** E*************t from Portland Maine is also a hater and they both post anti pit bull links to their friends on Facebook. Both do agility…spread the word..

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  25. Jeff, I am sending this to you to publish or not as you see fit, but people in Jacksonville FL need to know what has happened in their animal control department ACPS, and that the equivalent of some of Longmont’s staff with Ledy VanKavage and Best Friends has infiltrated and is running Jacksonville animal control now.

    I am hoping you may know of some victim advocates in FL or the Jacksonville area that may be able to use this information to prevent a death or mauling. I wish I could reach the owner of the Westie who was mauled who clearly is confused about why animal control isn’t doing its job and is trying to blame her and her dog, but I can’t figure out how to contact her. She has no idea it is corrupted.

    Would AVOCA be interested in following this story or getting it out there or providing background so maybe victims or furure victims can know.

    This is more dirty tricks from Best Friends making the pit breeders happy and pulling strings and getting her hired in Jacksonville..

    Aimee Sadler, Carly Shriver, Best Friends, Ledy VanKavage, etc have gotten one of their plants in to run animal control in Jacksonville, and she is already protecting pit bulls that attack.

    I saw this attack news story http://www.dogsbitedecatural.com/2014/11/jacksonville-fl-2-pit-bulls-came-out-of.html and it didn’t make sense at first. The Animal control director, Nikki Harris, is refusing to follow the law and put these pit bulls that attacked up for a dangerous dog hearing, AND she’s making up a story blaming the victim and insinuating that the West Highland terier jumped into the pit bull yard and terrorized them and deserved to be mauled- in other words, Nikki has already prepared her lies to protect the pit bulls from a dangerous dog designation. So I looked up Nikki Harris.

    This woman’s background is a disgrace, She has no business doing anything in animal control. She isn’t public safety. She’s a total Best Friends plant and a self-styled “dog behaviorist” who is just a vet tech that got connected to Best Friends pit bull and No Kill politics.

    Pit Nutter and No Kill fanatic

    Nikki Harris (the Jacksonville animal control director officer who won’t declare these 2 pit bulls to be dangerous and is blaming the victim) is a pit bull protector nutter and a pit bull “behaviorist” and hooked up with Best Friends

    Nikki Harris is a new hire for Jacksonville ACPS. Jacksonville is now running the No Kill scam with Nikki leading the charge and dumping pit bulls in homes left and right. Nikki is running behavioral tests to declare that fighting dogs are just great and should get shipped right out into homes.

    Nikki has NO intention of declaring these 2 dangerous dogs that attacked the Westie to be dangerous because she is in the dog dealing game, particularly pit bulls, and the No Kill dangerous dog protection game a la Best Friends and Ledy VanKavage.

    Nikki Harris is NOT performing her duties as public safety officer.

    These two pit bulls probably came from Jacksonville Animal control, or a pit nutter rescue that Nikki is unloading these dogs onto. She’s dumping tons of dogs with mysterious “rescues” to try to make it look like No Kill is working, but all she is really doing is refusing to take dogs and refusing to do her job. Who knows, Nikki may have done one of her “behavioral assessments” and declared them ok.
    “Nikki Harris has joined ACPS from the Nebraska
    Humane Society through FCNMHP. She will be responsible for animal programs and management of related
    functions. She has already brought new focus to the use of social media, formal behavioral testing of dogs for
    placement, changing intake focus to pet retention, a renewed commitment to building a volunteer program,
    and many more improvements in just a very short time!”

    Do you know what changing intake focus to pet retention is? It is No Kill jargon that means she’s refusing to take in dogs so she can artificially alter the euthanasia statistics to make them look better, and falsely claim this is No Kill.

    She sure as hell isn’t going to take these two dangerous pit bulls for a dangerous dog hearing, and that is why she is already lying about this incident and BLAMING THE VICTIM.

    Nikki Harris is also following the breeder & Nathan Winograd method of “protect the puppy mill breeders.” She only issued meaningless citations to these puppy mill operators. They were supposed to be shut down, but Nikki Harris is enabling them and people are angry

    http://www.news4jax.com/news/city-issues-citations-against-puppy-mill-operators/27134304

    Nikki Harris is not even an animal control officer. When she worked at Nebraska animal control, all she did was act as Director of Training and Placement and “communications” in Nebraska putting the thumbs up on pit bulls and offloading them. Then she worked for the Best Friends front on propaganda.

    However she did do one thing in Nebraska- she was handling the pit bull adoptions personally, herself in Nebraskahttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f7INwylSzpAJ:nhs.convio.net/site/DocServer/New_Pit_Application.doc%3FdocID%3D641+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Nikki is also going to Best Friends Animal Society propaganda conferences http://conference.bestfriends.org/events/2014-best-friends-national-conference/custom-17-2a44f2ead0374538bd70cef71c638a91.aspx with her friends Aimee Sadler and people at Longmont Humane Society (CO) (having a brainwashing session with Ledy) that hand out the dogs that attack. Look at that list of attendees at Best Friends asinine propaganda conference. and we all know that Best Friends says that pit bulls that attack other pets should not be declared dangerous. Wouldn’t want to make the pit bull breeders unhappy. Here’s her 2014 Best Friends conference Bio. Do you see that she is running her own special behavioral tests to clear aggressive dogs and put them in homes?

    “Nikki Harris, Division Chief, Jacksonville Animal Care and Protective Services
    Nikki Harris is the division chief for Jacksonville’s Animal Care and Protective Services. Originally from Omaha, Nebraska, she began her career in animal welfare as a licensed veterinary technician at the Nebraska Humane Society. During her 10-plus years there, she held several other positions, including foster care coordinator and director of placement and behavior.
    Just over two years ago, she accepted a job with First Coast No More Homeless Pets in Jacksonville, Florida, working to help reduce euthanasia and, one year later, became the shelter manager for the city. She implemented an objective behavior evaluation for dogs in danger of being euthanized for mild behavior problems, increased the number of animals placed in foster care, coordinated implementation of Playing for Life play groups for dogs, and helped to create a Pet Safety Net program in which customers are offered resources and education to avoid surrendering their pets. In March 2014, she accepted the position of division chief”

    Objective behavior evaluations, another fakey name for clearing problem dogs to dump them in homes, al a Carly Shriver.

    First Coast Homeless Pets is a Best Friends front and has its claws deeply into influencing animal control policy in Jacksonville. That’s how they started to weasel her in the door in Jacksonville

    It looks like their chief Scott Trabatoski did the dirty and brought her in. So how is he supervising her when she doesn’t follow the law?

    So Best Friends is basically running animal control in Jacksonville and determining policy through this First Coast Homeless Pets front.
    http://www.coj.net/…/docs/…/newsletter-issue-2-spring-2013.aspx..

    Nikki Harris is a danger to everyone in Jacksonville, and the owner of this victim Westie is going to get the shaft by Nikki and the city (and those pit bulls are going to attack again) unless the victim files complaints and a lawsuit, including a complaint about Nikki Harris lying and refusing to do her job and charge these 2 pit bulls as dangerous and have them go through a hearing. Nikki is working for Best Friends and the pit bull industry, not Jacksonville. Victims advocates also have to put Jacksonville on notice that they are endangering everyone by hiring this unqualified special interest plant.

    I hope the owner of this Westie can also be alerted to what games Nikki is playing with people and their pets’ lives, and how Nikki is screwing her over and breaking the law
    She should be working for the pit bull breeders, not for animal control, and Jacksonville had no business hiring her for this job. Best Friends must have played games with some local government hack and gotten her in. She had no good experience for this job.

    Nikki Harris is a Best Friends/AFF pit bull fanatic and pit bull politics plant, and dangerous dog enabler, and she’s dangerous. She has no business being anywhere near animal control. There are maulings to come in Jacksonville FL.

    PS She’s also abandoning cats outddors in their “relocation” plan to die outdoors but that is another story in the Best Friends No Kill scam, but it is how they sell this to an unsuspecting public.

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  26. Someone also needs to have a lawyer talk to someone at Facebook because a Facebook employyee is helping the pit bull people shut down people ids as fake, but letting them set up fake ids to harass and stalk people.

    It’s a Facebook employee helping them do this.

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  27. Jeff, I saw this on the craven site and also saw the comments posted by Kim? on your fb page about her experience as a victim with Madhani. Can the victims involved with this and screwed over by this guy to come together and collect and share this?

    “Jeff, is it possible for the victims who were supposed to speak to Aamer or who did to get together and compile their experiences with this particular situatuion, including COPIES of any corresponsence to and from Aaamer or anyone connected to Aamer or USAToday or any other source, and any issues they discussed with him and his reactions and activity, or lack of it, and collect them together as a sort of report?

    This particular major ethical breach by a journalist and a newspaper and media company needs to be documented and retained so that people understand how the pit bull industry uses the media to be its slave or coconspiratant, and how these people who pose as journalists deceive people and create the propaganda they do.

    People need to understand how these propaganda journalists lie and further abuse victims, and silence asnd censor their voices, and keep them out of the conversation or limit them so as to not detract from the business industry propaganda being created on behalf of the wealthy and politically connected.

    Very few people get to hear the behind the scenes information about how these corrupt people do their false “research” and how they don’t, and how they deceive and censor while pretending to be fair and unbiased and interested, and this is an opportunity to document this.

    How did Aamer contact victims? How did he get their names and contact information? Where did he meet wity h them? How many spoke to him? What questions did he ask? How did he document his interviews? What topics did victims cover with him? What questions did he ask? What correpsondence was there? How did aamer describe his intended article and his research? What did he say he was doing, and then what did he actually do? What information did he give as to his pit bull industry sources? Did he say why he was researching and writing this article? How did he identify himself? What experience did he cite?

    It is important to collect this while it is fresh in the minds of victims.

    When Aamer spoke to any victims, his article was already written, before he even contacted them, by the pit bull industry.

    When a corrupt person like this is working for fighting dog breeders and dog fighters, his activity needs to be reviewed and documented so that more can learn how this all operates.”

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  30. “It’s all how you raise ’em”
    Is the first thing that’s said,
    When someone is injured
    Or someone is dead.

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”,
    The rose-glass wearers say,
    “To carnage and death,
    Let us turn away.”

    “It’s all how you raise ’em
    We believe in redemption,
    We’re politically savvy,
    And we need attention.”

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”,
    Let’s print it in Red,
    Let’s hose off the streets
    Where the last victim bled.

    Don’t tell us your story,
    Just look at MY pup.
    “It’s all how you raise ’em
    So shut the f**k up.”

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”
    With deep piety,
    Chant the sanctimonious
    With their dog deity.

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”
    The more that it’s said,
    Equates to the increasing numbers
    Of injured and dead.

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”
    Until that grim day,
    When you too,
    Get caught in a pit bull melee.

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”
    That’s what you’ll say.
    It’s just a freak accident,
    Not D.N.A.

    “Don’t think bad of pit bulls”
    Is what Mom said instead,
    Oh how he love both those dogs.”
    Now he’s dead.

    “It’s all how you raise ’em”,
    ‘Till the mantra is broken.
    It’s one of the bloodiest phrases e’er spoken.

    Inspired by the Craven Desires Semantic Satiation entry

    https://pitbullpoetlaureate.blogspot.com/2014/12/its-all-how-you-raise-em.html

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    • Ban the breed lol. No understand the breed. People don’t think like a dog they expect the dog to think human. That’s the first problem. About the baby who was killed while left with a pit and the patents were out. How many of you have babies? I’m sure we all know what the shrill crying sounds like. What would it sound like if you had a dog’s hearing.? Ever hear of shaken baby syndrome? A parent gets so overwhelmed by the screaming and crying they shake the baby to death. So if we hear on the news of parents killing their children because they couldn’t handle it why expect a dog is able to? Maybe ban having kids??? Some races are prone to violence and crime more than others let’s ban races with high crime rate.we hear of the child sex trade in 3rd world countries. Why not sterilize them all? Again I say it’s the handler there should be many steps taken when owning one to ensure there isn’t any trouble. Don’t get a pit and a purse dog and expect they will be life long friends. Sure it might take months or even years but eventually it will go wrong. Don’t think you can have a house of intact males and expect they consider each other equal. Eventually one will make sure they are the alpha especially if you haven’t established that as your role(that should be the 1 rule to owning them). That being said again they require very specialized owners. I’ve lived with up to a dozen at a time and while if broken up enough dog fights I have never been bitten. Please don’t leave children alone with these dogs. If parents can feel like strangling annoying children how can you expect a dog to handle it? I have a 16 year old with multiple disabilities and he pushes my sanity to the limit sometimes. I wouldn’t leave him home alone with a few dogs running around. He may just throw a tantrum and flail around and what would that be like in a dog’s mind? That being said my dogs are very good with my kids, loving and gentle but any dog can be set off by things and from my experience small dogs are far more aggressive but when a pit had it in its mind to attack you can’t change its mind. You have to watch it’s body language they never attack without warning that’s a bunch of bs. Either no one was paying attention or they don’t know how to read the dog. Having 9 right now I haven’t had a fight in quite a while because I know who gets along and who doesn’t and even if they seem to get along they have their moments. I just know how to read the dog before it has a chance to act on it.

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